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The Confederate Flag: Giving Blacks the Finger

I encounter the image of the Confederate flag everyday. It is usually paired with a cheeky saying “Southern pride” or “screw you if you don’t like it.” The claim is that those who are offended by the image do not fully understand its history. Furthermore, the people who are offended have no real ownership of that history. For the sake of this argument, I will draw comparisons between the symbolism of the Nazi swastika and the Confederate flag. I am hesitant to make this comparison because it is the standard argument people use when they have run out of intelligent things to say. However, I do feel that there are valid parallels between these particular images and the common narrative of oppressed peoples.

Imagine that you are a Jewish person living in present-day Germany. You, your family, and many of your friends are descendants of Holocaust survivors. All around you are images of the Nazi swastika. In your classes, you may sit next to someone who is wearing it on his t-shirt. When you are driving you see vehicles displaying the Nazi flag alongside phrases like “German pride” or “If you’re offended by this flag, you’re an idiot.” Imagine that the flag is flown on government buildings. There are other official flags with less-than-subtle references to the swastika. You see it at sporting events. There are prominent political figures who publicly champion it and dismiss or mock people who are upset by it.

When you ask people why they choose to display the flag, they tell you, “It is part of my heritage. Nazism really wasn’t about race. It was about fixing economic problems and standing up for what you believe in.” People are proud to be related to high ranking Nazi officers.

When you challenge these views, you are told that you do not fully understand because it is not really a part of your history. No one waves the swastika and then gives the finger to Jewish people. However, it is exactly what happens with the Confederate flag and black people.

Let us be clear that the association of this image with racism is not one of coincidence. To say that the Civil War and the politics thereafter were about states’ rights and fighting intrusive government is equivalent to saying that the Holocaust was the sensible social and economic policy of the Third Reich. Images of the Confederate flag are meant to be antagonistic. They are meant to be in-your-face challenges about race.

Interestingly, many of the people who display the flag do not consider themselves racists. But if your politics and social views solidify racial norms or support the marginalization of minorities, does it matter if you call yourself a racist?

The most prevalent and sinister racism no longer occurs in Klan meetings. It occurs in voting booths. It happens when resumes with names that are “too ethnic” are thrown in the trash. It happens when politicians say welfare, lazy, and urban when they mean black. It happens when a culture allows Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh to be millionaires. To distinguish between being a racist and having views or politics that enforce the racial structure is to say, “Yes, Officer, I did burn down those houses, but I would prefer not to call it arson.”

For us, the issue of the Confederate flag is particularly relevant. Recently, there has been an re-emergence of racial politics. There have been widespread attempts at minority voter suppression, laws that allow police officers to search anyone that “looks like” an illegal immigrant, and a return to some of the most blatant race-baiting in years. The Supreme Court is at this moment considering eliminating the Voter Rights Act of 1965. The propagation of symbols like the Confederate flag is a symptom pointing toward a larger problem.

Racism is not a dinosaur that became extinct millions of years ago. My mother’s birth certificate says she is colored. My grandfather served in the military but could not sit in a restaurant after he completed his service. His great-grandfather was a slave. The Nazis and the Confederates lost. We should start acting like it.

17 thoughts on “The Confederate Flag: Giving Blacks the Finger

  1. Comparing General Robert E. Lee to the Nazis is ridiculous and hurts your argument. The Confederacy WAS about states' rights, and those were related to slavery, but comparing a democratic CSA that fought a defensive war against the Union to Nazi Germany is frankly ridiculous. This is coming from a northerner who is looking from the outside on the issue. Calling Rush Limbaugh a racist is fun I suppose, but its hardly true. Stop making ridiculous comparisons without any basis and then you can perhaps make a good argument.

  2. The comparison was one of the imagery and symbolism of the flags. Essentially, I'm pointing out that the Confederate flag is as offensive to me as the Swastika is to Jewish people. You may be an expert on the Civil War. But I happen to be an expert in my opinion.

    1. You are an expert in your opinion, but if you are going to actually back that opinion up with any facts the opinion is baseless. Yes, I am not denying that the symbol has a history beyond the Civil War, but the comparisons you make in your article still have no firm basis. Congratulations on your (may I add worthy) opinion, but it is muddled by lazy comparisons. The Nazi Germany and Rush Limbaugh comparisons are easy to make, and probably make your liberal friends happy, but they don't make any sense.

  3. This response only further solidifies my point. You cannot dismiss the part about slavery. "It was about states' rights and slavery was a part of that." The slavery is what I take offense to. Furthermore, the symbol has a history beyond the Civil War. It was flown at lynchings, church bombings, and white supremacist marches. It became the emblem of "white pride" and Neo-Nazi movements To be honest, that part of the history is that part to which I take the most issue.

  4. The cross as used by Christians is also a symbol that can be found offensive by those of other religious beliefs who have been persecuted by Christians, yet the cross remains prominent in our culture and on Furman's campus. Should this be removed because of some of its sordid history? Accepting the history of a symbol such as the Confederate flag is necessary, but removing it from sight is more dangerous than letting it exist. In your article, you use many comparisons to the Nazi regime in World War II. During this time, the Nazis also wrote over parts of history that they did not like. They left out parts that painted Germany in a negative light and taught it to their children in that way. People have used the Confederate flag to propagate terrible ideals, but the flag and the actions surrounding it are a part of our history. How can we fight against the discriminations here if we allow the memory of them to be forgotten? Christians still accept the cross, even with the unspeakable acts that have been committed in the name of the Christian church (including actions by the Klu Klux Klan). By understanding all of the implications behind a symbol, the resolve to prevent those negative things from happening in the future is strengthened. The Confederate flag must be accepted for what it is, and should not be thrown out simply because it is a distasteful part of history.

  5. I agree completely. I'm just not of the opinion that it should be celebrated.

  6. You can't grant the point about the history beyond the Civil War and still argue that there is no reason that people should take offense. That's not granting the point. Do you suppose that people could be offended by church bombings and lynchings? If so, do you suppose people could be offended by a symbol that came to represent the sentiments of those who practiced the church bombings and lynchings? It has a plurality of representations. I just question whether it should be celebrated. It is quite difficult for many people to view the image with the same sense of "pride" that others feel. And calling Rush Limbaugh a racist doesn't really make liberals happy. It's old news to them.

    1. Again, you are backing your arguments up with no influence. I could make the exact same ridiculous comparisons as you. "The American Flag is a symbol of genocide and should not be used because it is offensive to me. The Americans under their flag deported and killed huge amounts of Native Americans. The flag is as insulting to me as the Nazi Germany flag." Again, that is the exact same arguement you have made Ryan, with the exact same amount of historical evidence to back up such a ridiculous comparison. Yes, bad things have been done under all kinds of national symbols everywhere, and by your standards, if we were to ban the use of flags based on historical events caused by nations using those flags, we would have a very small l list of politically correct national symbols. Additionally, Rush Limbaugh is not a racist, even if you don't support his views, its another baseless claim that weakens your argument. Then again, I suppose "An Expert on Opinion" such as yourself can make those sort of claims and put them in The Paladin.

  7. Why would that be illegitimate? It may very well be offensive or at least a source conflict to some Native Americans. I don't think that offense be dismissed as ridiculous either.

    1. It is ridiculous when you use the same argument against the Confederate flag when the exact style of comparison you used can be applied to any flag or symbol. The fact of the matter is any flag can be deemed offensive by some. The issue isn't whether the symbol or flag is offensive to some. I'm not arguing to the contrary. But I think Ms. Russel gets at the main issue with your writing, that "The Confederate flag must be accepted for what it is, and should not be thrown out simply because it is a distasteful part of history." Would you throw out the United States flag based on its past and a comparison to Nazi Germany as well? Would you eliminate the Cross from public use because of the brutality of the Crusades?

  8. I agree with your main point. I don't think it should be thrown out either. I'm drawing attention to why people offense particularly when it is paired with the in-your-face challenges about race. I would argue further, but I think this conversation has demonstrated my point more clearly than I could explain it.

    1. Oh, I'm sorry, was I pairing my criticisms with in-your-face challenges about race? You're the only one accused people (I.E. Rush Limbaugh for example) of racism my friend.

      1. The level of antagonism in these comments is getting a bit out of hand. I don't think saying I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG repeatedly on someone's article from the OPINIONS section is going to change anything in the end.

  9. Expert in my opinion? Can one major in that at Furman?

  10. “Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.” “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?” “Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.” - All quotes by Rush Limbaugh. I think it's pretty safe to say he's a racist. Also, comparing the cross to the Confederate flag is way different. Christians CHOOSE to wear it. Black people don't choose to fly the confederate flag because it is offensive. Whether you like it or not, the South wanted states' rights because they relied on slave labor. Personally I don't know why some Southerners are so keen to be proud of a war their ancestors lost. It doesn't really seem like something to be proud of.

  11. The fact is that people who use the "confederate" flag as a symbol of pride in their history are racial offenders. Reason being that the confederate flag that is typically used as a bumper sticker or hung up on the front porch of a home is actually just one of many confederate battle flags used in the Civil War, not the fully symbolic figure of the Confederacy. If these statements were actually pertaining to pride in one's history then they would be historically accurate in their expression. That aside, there were two distinct parallels made between the confederate flag and the nazi flag in this writing that have now been fused into one misunderstood comparison. 1. That the confederate flag is offensive to black people like the nazi flag is to jewish people, not necessarily because of their historical background, but because of the intent of their representation. They are perfectly acceptable to be retained in history, but should not be celebrated as prideful ignorance. 2. That people should not shroud their blatant offenses as historical investments. I don't think Ryan is trying to make any specific comparison between officials like Robert E. Lee and the Nazis, but rather he is pointing out the not so subtle racial offenses dealt with on a daily basis. We are talking about flags, and what they represent beyond their history. It is what people intend to use them for. We are not discussing specific political parallels between the Holocaust and the Civil War. Also, just to make this explicitly clear, this is the opinion section of a school newspaper, not a political press conference.

  12. I agree with Megan. This is opinion. Personally, I was raised in the South and am white. I shook my head sadly when I saw others drive to school with the Confederate flag flying from their pick-up truck. Sure, blame it on the fact that my mom and dad aren't Southern so I don't really understand. During band, my director would tell about how the KKK planned to scare him away his first year as he was teaching in a predominately white area, and many of his original band parents were members. Do I have citations for my opinions and ideas? No. Do you have proof that other so-called symbols of hate do not scare or influence others? No. In fact, this article is proof otherwise, given that it is first-hand thoughts and OPINIONS of someone the symbol negatively impacts. As such, can we please agree to be respectful? There have been ideas in this section that I do not agree with, but I understand that not everyone has to see life the way I do. This is Ryan's idea, his view, and the impact the Confederate flag has on him. These are his thoughts and opinions, which may run counter to yours. Personally, I was glad when Georgia was remade to exclude this symbol.

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